I caught up with Chief Commissioner Todd Grossman to clear up a few Misconceptions.
I spoke to Todd Grossman this morning. As you all know I can be a bit brutal with some of my questioning. I’ll say Todd kept his composure and answered the questions carefully but not as well as I’d like.
I asked Todd about the upcoming UFC event this weekend at the Garden. He said he was excited the event was coming to Mass and it’ll be a pleasure to watch.
I had asked about the Symposium that is going on today at 6pm. I asked if he’d comment on why certain commissioners weren’t even aware there was such an event. He said our lady chairman Latisha Adams would be speaking at the event. He had no idea why the other commissioners were not invited, he stated “Sal Carrillo has put the event together with Action Sports and I heard about it from him” “It’s a public event so anyone can come” “I don’t want to get into personal invites” My opinion here is, If you have the opportunity to have your deputies and fellow commissioners at such an event that they can learn from, it would behoove you to do so. It’s a great learning experience for them.
I asked Todd of some misconceptions that are circling about the area pertaining to the MSAC. I asked him if the UFC was receiving any preferential treatment, more so than any of our local shows. I also asked if the commission cared about the local shows and local MMA in particular. “ Dan, he says “That’s ridiculous, Local promotions have to thrive for MMA to survive at all” “We love the local scene and want to do everything we can for local promotions”
I asked Todd about the qualifications to become a deputy commissioner. He quickly replied “You just fill out an application and submit it to the MSAC.” THAT’S IT! I replied…you don’t need any training or anything?? Todd quickly began to back peddle a bit and said, “well the application asks of your experience in martial arts….” “We try to hire the most qualified and knowledgeable people Dan” So I told Todd of my experiences at Bellator with his “Qualified and knowledgeable Deputies” I said “Todd at Bellator while getting my hands wrapped I had a deputy harass me about gauze covering my knuckles, he explained that was illegal and started to undress my wraps, another deputy agreed with him. Until Dave Hood came in and explained their ignorance to hand wrapping “legally” did I get to continue and lost about 30 minutes of prep time before my fight. I explained that type of situation and an argument ensuing in front of me is detrimental to me. Its stressful enough fighting on TV in your home state and on a very big show. I didn’t need the added stress. No apology….
My next question was if Dave Hood and Ryan Parker would be working the dressing rooms at the UFC. Todd replied “Yes they will” When speaking of choosing the officials for shows and other deputy positions, I asked Todd what he thought of Ryan Parker and he said “Ryan Parker, I consider an expert”
If Todd admitingly enough doesn’t consider himself even an expert, because he said to me “Dan, keep in mind we have only been doing this for 6 months now, some people may think that’s a long time but we are all very new to this and are doing what we can” Then why wouldn’t The commission consult the experts such as Ryan Parker, Joe Esposito, Kevin MacDonald, when choosing the deputies, referee’s, and judges for any of the events? Why are they taking this on blindly? Are they comfortable risking the safety of fighters with the minimal experience they have? What is holding them back from making a phone call to the experts?
Lets get into the good stuff shall we?
I asked Todd who would be refereeing at the UFC this weekend. He replied with 4 names. Mazzagati, Herb Dean, Rosenthal, and Eves Levine. I said “and who else?” He said “That’s it” So I asked him “Todd, i’m confused here, The largest show in New England shows up at our doorstep and we have representing Ma. Our fighters, Judges, commission, shit even the president of the company (UFC president Dana White i.e. South Boston) is from Mass but why not the referee’s?” I mean, not one ref from Mass?” Todd said, “Not everyone will get a chance” I asked him what made him choose those 4. Todd said, “ I CHOSE the 4 best referee’s in the country to referee the event and I don’t think anyone can dispute that”. So if you chose the referee’s, under what criteria did you choose them under? How do you know if someone is good enough to referee at the next level? Todd replied, “The local referee’s haven’t demonstrated…You just know it when you see it Dan” So Todd, you don’t think say, Kevin Macdonald, Gary Foreman, John English, Gary Eblan, or Steve Rita have what it takes? Let me ask you this Todd, Lets say a state isn’t commissioned for MMA but yet a referee steps in and pretty much single handedly commissions the state for about 4 years, sets up judging clinics, referee clinics, and judge shadowing for this particular state…. would that demonstrate what it takes to referee at the highest level? Todd replies, “ Not everyone will get there chance Dan” “I know what your talking about, I don’t have an issue with Kevin. I happen to think Kevin is a good guy and a great referee.” “Kevin knows why he isn’t refereeing this event, you can ask him Dan” “Its about his Behavior”. I said Todd, Kevin has stated that you have a personal grievance with him is that true? Is that why you wont let him ref the UFC? No answer…let me ask you another question Todd. Did the commission vote on who would ref the UFC event? Did they have a say? Todd said, “ No we did not vote on it. So, you just picked whom you wanted to ref? Todd said, “no I don’t know who picked the refs….” Are you sure? You told me you chose the 4 refs because they were the best in the world. Todd said, “I don’t want to talk about the referee’s anymore Dan or Kevin Macdonald, can we move on with another question?” Sure
Anyways, moving forward. I asked Todd if he frequented this site. His reply, “ I have no interest reading about people posting from their basement under fake names!”
“What fake names” I replied. Anyways, I tried to educate him that its pretty easy to notice the real from the fake and some of the fake names are just nicknames of fighters we all know. I told him, people on there are generally good people and they are the community you are appealing to. They are the fans, fighters, coaches, promoters, etc. We voice our opinions on northeastmma.net rather than driving to Boston to make a 10am meeting during a workweek. Food for thought Todd, check it out.
Next topic, Fake Medicals. I asked Todd what his thought on fake medicals was. “What are you talking about?” he said. Todd, everyone fakes their meds, so what are you guys doing to fix it? Come on, Photoshop man. All you need to do is take your old meds or even someone else’s and just change a few dates and names…what has the commission done to stop it? I heard that you even caught someone with fake medicals in the last few weeks. What did you do? Todd-“ umm well, there is an investigation going on and I cant really comment on it” So you do know what im talking about then? Well did the fighter in question still get to fight after giving you fake medicals? Todd “ I cant comment”. Oh, I heard he did fight. Good luck with that.
Ok, I don’t want to make this whole article a hate fest on the commission so I’ll add this. Todd did call me back when he said he would and he did say he hopes to make things locally better here in Massachusetts. He said to me, would you rather be like Nevada, and California, and Vegas? Vegas is in Nevada but sure, I would. He said the reasoning for things like the medical requirements and such is because they are looking for only true professionals to fight here. If you cant get a few tests done and submit the proper paper work in an orderly fashion then your not demonstrating the acts of a professional before you even get in the cage. I totally agree with him.
He also asks that we give them some slack. We asked for this commission and they brought it. They got the rules together in a matter of weeks and were able to pull off a show in no time. He admits there are some kinks to iron out but with time they will do that.
In closing here, I think we are a far way off from prefect. I’m afraid the MSAC may be turning into a dictatorship rather than having to answer to someone above them. They do have a boss in one way or another. The legislature, the people. They are not listening to the people. In no part of my interview did Todd ask of my concerns or opinions on how they are conducting themselves so far but who am I right?














LOL @ Mazzagatti and Levine being two of the best refs.
I SUPPORT KEVIN!
Great article Dan…glad to see someone reporting cutting edge material against the grain. As if the people of the sport didnt already know in general this is the situation that is being dealt with regularly, then its a good thing that you are bringing it to the forefront and not only bringing attention to it but also spotlighting it!! Commend you for your security and knowledge, and ability to bring out the “hidden” side of whats going on at times!
I also am a supporter of Kevin as well. In my dealings with him, he has always presented himself as not only a knowledgeable, intelligent individual, but also a class act as a human being in general. Which I may add is a credit in this day and age as alot of people we deal with have agendas, and are all about themselves and what they do or can accomplish at someone elses expense to benefit themselves. Kevin has never portrayed any of these characteristics, if anything, he exemplifies the exact opposite at every encounter he has with anyone in the sport!!
Bonnell, I don’t mean to come across like an english teacher, but if someone says 3 sentences in a row, you quote it once…like, when you wrote this: “ Not everyone will get there chance Dan” “I know what your talking about, I don’t have an issue with Kevin. I happen to think Kevin is a good guy and a great referee.” “Kevin knows why he isn’t refereeing this event, you can ask him Dan” “Its about his Behavior”.
If Todd said that all at once, you’d only put one ” at the start and one at the end. The only reason I point that out is because the way you wrote it above can create some doubt as to whether or not Todd said everything all at once…meaning he could have said the 4 different quotes several minutes apart and you picked the information you liked best and threw the 4 seperate quotes back to back.
Can you clarify for me? Did Todd say all that at once, or was that 4 seperate parts of the conversation?
He had said it all at once. The quotations make it look possibly otherwise. We need to hire an editor here lol
Great job Dan.
To Todd Grossman and/or anyone else from the MSAC reading this: Please take the constructive criticism above in the spirit that it is offerred. Dan speaks for many of us who want to see MMA grow and prosper in Mass. We are not against the commission but we feel that the commission could benefit by working with some of the people, like Kevin and Dan and others, who have been around for a long time and are well respected. The local MMA community in the Northeast and Massachusetts is a knowledgable, passionate, group of people who are respectful of the sport (and some of us even vote).
Larry Kerrigan (my real name)
Thanks for clarification, Dan.
I have an issue with how Todd views the readers/posters. Not a single person on this thread is posting from a fake name, and none of us live in our parent’s basement. Just because many seem to disagree with how the MSAC is operating doesn’t mean they are uneducated, that they live with their parents or that their opinion doesn’t matter.
Many readers/posters are very educated, have very good jobs, make a ton of money, own homes, etc…
Contrary to what he may think, Todd isn’t always the smartest guy in the room.
Great article Dan
FROM MY BASEMENT!!!!!!!! That was great Dan. I hope it was FAKE. That whole article sounds so crazy. I feel like if they see my name posting that I disagree with them it will be no more fighting in MA for me. It sounds like government at it best. I am very disappointed in the lack of knowledge and DRUNK WITH POWER these people have. Dan you should work for FOX NEWS!!!!!!!!LOVE YOU MEAN IT DAN!!!! Todd this is my real name.
From a public library – - My only involvement with the commission was when a CFX event was cancelled. I know Gary owned up to the issues that fell under his responsibility but the issues at hand would have never been a factor if the commish hadn’t made things so difficult. A very generalized and simplified look – MMA in Mass was great before the commission, MMA in Mass is not as good now. No one is better off.
The real Mark Hoxie – home owner & business owner
thank you dan for taking the time to do this interview
This is from my mothers basement, oh brother, Dan nice job you are more intelligent than you look .Ryan Parker is an expert, in everything , Ryan is the man.Kevin is getting a raw deal, that is a shame.
WOW. Someone needs to get them on tape doing or saying something incriminating. In the Iphone era they will slip up eventually and be exposed and the qualified people will get their day.
Unbelievable
I would just like to put it on the record my user name represents the first initial of my name (K-Kenny), then my last name (Kline), then my year of birth (83). I know the MSAC has really tough and unreasonable rules to follow so please let me know how to make my name more acceptable to be taken seriously. For example, I would be willing to add blood type, favriote movie, cell phone carrier, etc. to my user name. Just let me know guys!!!
All jokes to the side, that has to be the most simple minded answer I have heard on here and of course, leave it to the MSAC to win that award. Seriously guys, it doesnt take much common sense to figure out 80% of the people on here. If you are involved in MMA in the new england area, I would think a simple game of connect the dots would be more difficult to figure out than who is who on here. And just in case you suck at connecting the dots, learn to read between the lines of an idiot on here just posting to post and an educated, constructive critizism response.
Oh and BTW: I dont even have a basement to post from!